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welcome everyone to a very special live

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stream edition of somewhere in the skies

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i am your host ryan sprague and we have

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a really special guest today someone i

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met through the entertainment industry

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and then i learned that she also was a

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huge ufo nut like the rest of us so i

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had to have her come on the show today

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we're gonna talk all about her career as

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an actor uh how she got interested in

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ufos and how the two worlds seem to

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connect in many different ways so that's

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going to be really fun we've got karina

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isabel coming up in just a second but

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answer for you so without further ado

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i'm gonna bring her in right now karina

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welcome to somewhere in the skies for

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the first time hi thank you thank you so

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much

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of course of course like i said we kind

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of met through how most people do these

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days through instagram through twitter

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um and uh we kind of ran in the same

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circles when it came to um you know all

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the ufo stuff and then i learned that

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you are an actor as well in los angeles

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uh which i was for a short period of

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time as well

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somehow found my way back to new york

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but that's a uh a story for another time

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but um i have i have to ask before we

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even get to ufos obviously the bulk of

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this conversation um can you tell us a

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little about yourself for our viewers

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our listeners um what you do how you got

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interested in uh acting yeah give us the

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origin story

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how you became who you are today the

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origin well um i was cleaning out all of

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my old childhood stuff i used to write a

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lot of stories in elementary junior high

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and high school all my school year i

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guess

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um and i would draw all the time and i'm

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rereading all these stories and

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i wrote a lot about aliens and

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abductions and very existential matters

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i was like

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i'm i'm really smart

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i'm eight years old writing about this

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stuff and i feel like

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i've never had a sighting i've never had

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any sort of encounter

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i think it was just something a

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curiosity i've always had and a thing

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that i've always felt in my gut to be

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true because it doesn't make any sense

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for us to be this little baby earth and

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this vast space

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there has to be it's so such a lonely

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feeling

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to think that we are just it

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who's ever gonna know that you know we

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built these amazing monuments or created

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a beautiful song or an art piece like

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it's

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somebody out there has to see all of

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them

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right and i hope that's what that you

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know that gold disc is you know that

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they sent out into the outer reaches of

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space hopefully they'll hear our music

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someday and someday see our television

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shows carl sagan oh thank you i knew you

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knew where i was going with that yeah i

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hope that aliens first uh

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you know television broadcast is not

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adolf hitler like it was in the movie

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contact but uh who knows right now i

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don't know they put the the fine

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construct structure on that disc which

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is the universal math equation so

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yeah

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when it's gonna happen or if they

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visited us we will definitely get to

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that but um so what got you interested

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in acting how did you become an actor um

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i mean high school junior i was always a

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ham oh i'm i am a ham i'm always making

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jokes um i love to make people laugh

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my own little ego that if i can make you

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smile i i feel good if i can make you

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cry in a positive way i feel good um i

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feel like entertainment should be

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educational enlightening um and exciting

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it should just be a well-rounded animal

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you know we love to tell stories

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right and that's why i love doing this

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because i love sharing information

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and it's a passion

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so did you start then um with stage

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acting i know a lot of people start with

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theater then get into film and then you

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know hop in between and everything but

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um what what was like your first

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experience

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do you remember oh yeah it's girl scout

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camp and we did uh snow white and the

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seven dudes

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that there's a twist what was that all

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about uh we were wrapping little dwarves

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called the dudes i love it i love it um

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and you do improv as well right i do

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really long time out here i've been part

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of a lot of groups um and it i i love it

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it's just off the cuff it's witty it's

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smart it's you are having to pay

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attention so hard and it's games left

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and right it's great i love it yeah i am

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i can admit that that's not the kind of

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actor that i was um i used the word was

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i should probably say is if i ever plan

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on going back but like i couldn't do it

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i remember improv classes for me um the

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whole yes and yes and i just i couldn't

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it wasn't for me like i had to have the

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script in front of me and i had to like

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know exactly what was coming next but i

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able to think on their feet that quick

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let alone make it funny like that just

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adds a whole other level to it as well

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yeah it's just working a different part

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of your machine that's all yeah that's

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all it is i mean like right now you're

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improvising kind of aren't you that's a

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good point yeah yeah we're doing our

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little improv exercise tonight um

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well who

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who were some of your biggest

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inspirations like acting lives was there

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anyone who really

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you know you followed their work and

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you're like that's what i want to do

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like that style or

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um yeah gosh i'd have to i mean there's

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not one particular person because

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everybody adds a little something to the

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pot right

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a little sprinkle this a dash of that i

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mean i can always say meryl streep

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the goddess that she is

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i'm honestly doing a vel kilmer marathon

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going through his entire uh filmography

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and it's so he's such an actor's actor

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he really is so i love to do marathons

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like that i'll do a stanley kubrick

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marathon and watch all of his movies and

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you know 2001 space odyssey

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my favorites favorite movies um

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it's just a little bit of everybody to

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be honest

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right and i i i understand what you're

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i would follow like i i think when i was

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a kid i thought the epitome of a good

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actor was tom cruise only because i

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liked all of his movies like i think top

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gun was the first one i saw and i was

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like that's it that's the epitome of

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what a good actor is um and then you

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know as you start to

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see more movies or or understand how an

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actor's process works you're like

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okay there's a there's different ways to

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approach these things not that i still

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don't think he's a good actor but um

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i guess kind of staying on um

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on that whole vein of acting uh

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what are some of your favorite roles

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that you've done i know you've done

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film stages a lot of mom a lot of mom

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um i want to see a lot of uh improv

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characters that i've done uh

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i did one her name was famali mensah she

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uh she was um a broadway singer that

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could not sing and she was one of my

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favorite characters i did old lady

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makeup i was i had a voice i sounded

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kind of like colombo meets uh

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channing um what's her name carol

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channing okay okay so i would do a

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little bit of a voice like that she was

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my favorite i also did a character she

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was a mortician really

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unique and demure but she

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was a killer

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ooh nice

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little dexter thing going on there yeah

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it's always the quiet ones you should uh

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watch out for yeah yeah that's for damn

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sure um well that's so cool i

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i miss acting and i don't get to talk

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about it much so you're kind of my um my

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punching bag for today to do that most

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people know me as the ufo guy so it's

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cool to stretch those muscles a little

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bit um yeah let's see we've got a bunch

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of people in here

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saying hello to ryan and karina welcome

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everyone to the chat

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let's see all right we're all caught up

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all right well let's let's move on to

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why we're really here karina ufos no

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again we we started talking about acting

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that's how you and i connected but um

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ufos is where i think our real

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were really to be had and again that's

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why i was like gotta get her on we gotta

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talk about this in front of people so

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let's do it let's dive right in

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what um you said you wrote short stories

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and stuff

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that but um was there anything else that

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really got you interested in the topic i

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know for me

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you know it was a quite essential ufo

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sighting and

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books and the x-files but um yeah what

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really drove you to continue to kind of

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study this topic uh from the periphery

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throughout your life imagination

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the curiosity exploration

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just wanting i want answers i'm one of

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those people i want to know i don't want

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to be ignorant i just give me the answer

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and i'll go on with my life that's all

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um i like flight of the navigator when

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that came out when we were little that

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oh it blew my world i loved everything

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when you look at um

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different people's encounters and

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abductions

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some of that rings true when you watch

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flight of the navigator like the type of

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aircraft that was the type of materials

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what they found in roswell right that

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that magic metal right that serious

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metal that shapes and

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forms in different ways um that movie

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blew me away of course x-files like

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we're x-file babies

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yeah

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i know we grew up right at the right

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moment i think in time especially for

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like when i really was getting into ufos

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because i remember when i got really

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into it started you know talking to my

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parents about it and they're like calm

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down ryan like don't go talking about

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this stuff at like family parties people

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are gonna think you're crazy and then i

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saw the x-files i'm like oh

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it's cool to like ufos uh yeah which

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ebbs and flows but so you were an

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x-files fan hands down i and i'll say

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this i'm more of a skully with a mad

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touch of mulder

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i will always lean more towards the

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science and logical explanation

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as far you know not going too far into

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space

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with my thoughts and i always try to go

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back to um i think it's called the

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sailing rocks of california

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there was a mystery of how these rocks

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in a desert were always moving and

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nobody could figure it out well it's

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just ice that would formed and as the

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ice was melting it was moving the rocks

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so really a lot of our answers are just

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so simple but we don't want simple

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sometimes right we create these theories

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conspiracies hoping to fill in those

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missing gaps and plus it's just exciting

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i i mean i love this stuff

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yeah just

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it makes our world a little bit more

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colorful doesn't it absolutely and i'm

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so happy you brought up the idea of you

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know

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wanting something more like we want to

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make sense of things and that's kind of

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why conspiracy culture i think has kind

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of exploded in the past few years which

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uh we'll touch on a little bit later in

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the show because there's a couple

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conspiracies that we talked about off

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air that i want to get your thoughts on

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but um this idea of yeah is there more

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out there and i think you know when it

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comes to the x-files

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every episode it was kind of scully's

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job to

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like bring mulder back down to earth and

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be like we can scientifically explain

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this and i think you know the first

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couple seasons they really went out of

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their way to be like scully doesn't see

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any of the weird stuff happening she

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comes in right at the end after it's

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gone and mulder's like you missed it

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again and i think it kind of became like

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um a little too much of a

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tongue-in-cheek

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trope and they're like okay we gotta

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kind of you know mix up this formula a

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little bit and i think as the series

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went on she became more open to the

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possibilities of what mulder would

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you know bring to her and vice versa he

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became more skeptical which i think

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you're right somewhere in the middle of

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mulder and scully is where i think

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everyone should kind of be when it comes

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to this stuff um

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where as i come up from the opposite

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side of you i like i'll believe

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everything until it's proven to me that

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it's not real or that it can't

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scientifically be explained um so that's

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interesting we kind of attacked x-files

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from from different angles um

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well what were some of your other like

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inspirations within

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hollywood when it came to this whole

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topic oh yeah close encounters let's

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you know it's all about the frequencies

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the the music that they were playing

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just that drive that richard dreyfuss

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had to go to this mom like we all are

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leaning we're all driven to something

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for some reason to try to find a purpose

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oh that movie was just so well done i i

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wanted to be on that mountaintop so

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badly right

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yeah that was fine that one really came

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to me late in life and i kind of regret

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it because i you know i was a spielberg

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fan like i'd seen e.t i'd seen a bunch

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of his other movies but i didn't really

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catch on to the whole close encounters

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thing until

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i really got into ufos and you know that

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movie had so much basis

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in reality it's clear i mean they even

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had you know the former astronomer who

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worked for

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project

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alan heineck in the movie yeah

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and it was like if i'm remembered

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correctly close encounters of the third

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kind was part of the system

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that j allen heineck had created

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within project blue book to kind of

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look at these things so that was a

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really cool shout out um

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and the the part in that movie that

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always really gets me is uh

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in the beginning when the pilots are

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saying you know over the um the intercom

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like this thing just went past my plane

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and

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want to report a ufo do you want to

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report a ufo and all of the pilots like

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in you know sequence are like no no

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no

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and that's kind of what frustrated me so

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much about this topic is so many people

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have experienced it but they don't want

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to talk about it they're afraid of the

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ridicule that comes with a lot of it as

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well um so what are your thoughts on

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that like if you were to see

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a ufo

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um like tomorrow

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and you know close encounter i'm talking

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like this thing came down you saw

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something moving inside that thing um

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would you report it would you like to go

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you know instagram live and like i would

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lose my mind i would be calling

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everybody instagramming facebooking

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whatever social media i'd be like you

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guys you're not going to believe what i

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just saw i 100 i have no shame i am not

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embarrassed actually yesterday my

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girlfriend told me she on her way home

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she lives in santa clarita so she's

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driving up to five and she's like yeah i

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i saw something like what you see

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up the five by those mountains she saw a

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black huge triangle like that matte

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color with one little light she says it

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was so low she

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it's she cannot mistake it for a plane

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impossible she's on the freeway

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everybody's going super slow an 18

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wheeler pulled over his head was out

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looking out and he was just dumbfounded

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everybody people saw it oh wow i mean so

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it's they're here

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we don't know who they are

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i just uh absolutely i'd be screaming

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from the mountaintop

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right well and that's the other thing

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they're they you know there's we now

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kind of live in an age where there is a

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there there like even our government is

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admitting yes these things are real we

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can't explain them we'll look further

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into it um so we'll get to what's going

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on in ufo world um right now a little

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bit later but let's move back to

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hollywood yeah

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i want to dissect some of these with you

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because um we were talking off air about

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how hollywood portrays this topic and

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kind of the

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i guess the marriage that's always sort

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of been there between

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media and uh the ufo topic and kind of

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how

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the government has used

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uh movies hollywood um even news to

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for perception management

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in a sense you know i mean we had the

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roswell ufo crash in 1947 and then

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almost not even three years later we had

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the first not even i think like a year

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and a half later we had like one of the

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first flying saucer movies come out

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which was literally called the flying

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saucer um so what other

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things in hollywood movies tv shows do

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you think really

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really did this topic justice like david

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the credence it deserves yeah absolutely

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uh 100

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jillian anderson scully her movie ufo

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have you seen it oh my gosh i have that

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one right here on my list i'm so happy

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you brought it up top for me because it

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deals with math

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everything is about math it all leans uh

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towards equations geometry that's our

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universe

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and i think it is so beautifully done

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and it's it concentrates on these kids

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that are trying to figure it out where

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they are trying to communicate through

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symbols and mathematical equations which

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makes sense which will also go towards

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contact right the movie

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how to build that stargate was through

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mathematical equations

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i wish i was a mathematician so i could

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understand

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all of these i really do

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um because i think it's so fascinating

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and i think contacts really hit it on

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the mark um as far as uh secret agencies

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like bigelow musk bezos that are trying

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to get to space

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you know

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instead of the military going up there

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first or whatever

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yeah secret money

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yeah right and you know contact really i

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think

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stressed that um that whole idea of uh

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everyone's gonna have their own motives

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and intentions when it comes to finally

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making contact i know i spoke to um a

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chinese astronomer

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recently who um is working with the new

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uh fast telescope in china to try to

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make contact you know through through

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radio signals and whatnot like seti does

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here in the united states and i asked

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him i said well

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you know there's a lot of tension

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between the united states and china when

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it comes to uh politics and and military

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and all that but is

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the sector of you know space exploration

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or the search for

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et intelligence is that something we can

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all work together on and he said yeah i

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we always have i think he said americans

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have this fear that like if we were to

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find

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that first message you know that we

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wouldn't tell the rest of the world that

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it would be china's message and we would

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deal with it the way china wants to deal

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with it and i know that is a valid

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concern for a lot of people out there

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but he said no like we built this

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telescope for humanity like anyone can

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come here and use it you know you gotta

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sign up

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five years in advance to do it but um

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you can you can so i think contact

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really hit on a lot of really

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interesting stuff um carl sagan was so

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ahead of his time when it came to

553
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:16,480
telling that story and

554
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,960
yeah yeah what other ones anything else

555
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,640
really well that makes me happy that he

556
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,559
said that that it's right humanity i

557
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:24,559
mean that brings me a lot of comfort

558
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:27,280
because there's so much greed um that

559
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:28,240
just

560
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:30,799
destroys a lot of potential

561
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,280
yeah um that makes me really happy um i

562
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:34,960
like i honestly wrote down all these

563
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:37,760
movies i love it it's so hard for me to

564
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:40,799
remember things i mean et it's a classic

565
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:44,240
i you know i think kids are so pure and

566
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:46,000
they have good intentions until the

567
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:47,679
adults step into the picture and just

568
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:51,200
like uh destroy destroy um i just oh

569
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:53,039
that movie makes me so makes me

570
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:54,240
emotional

571
00:22:02,630 --> 00:21:58,559
especially that poor botanist alien

572
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,640
being left behind by his like family

573
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,400
what did i mean hello why did you guys

574
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,320
leave me behind not cool not with these

575
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:08,159
idiots um

576
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,720
a rival all about communication and

577
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:12,960
understanding i think is just

578
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:15,760
cinematically beautifully done oh my god

579
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:16,880
yeah i

580
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:24,470
that's a good point uh you know that one

581
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,360
just

582
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:28,000
it hit me so hard i don't know what it

583
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:30,960
is but i think it was the whole idea of

584
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,080
um

585
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,720
you know the power of language

586
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,640
and interpretation i mean we saw that in

587
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:38,559
contact too but i think where arrival

588
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:41,280
really stood out is how

589
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,640
how we communicate and how we you know

590
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:45,840
we were

591
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:48,320
how it could be different for different

592
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,600
civilizations you know you and i are

593
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:53,440
speaking through a screen together in

594
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,440
english right now processing what the

595
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:57,679
others saying and like that's it there's

596
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,039
the conversation but you look at another

597
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:03,360
civilization from elsewhere who

598
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,799
might have learned how to communicate a

599
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,320
totally different way

600
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:08,080
and it really makes you think like how

601
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:09,120
would we

602
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,880
deal with if a ufo came down and we had

603
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:14,799
to somehow communicate with it i don't

604
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,390
yeah i mean we could like write things

605
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:23,760
down and be like

606
00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:24,720
yeah

607
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,840
um i

608
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:27,440
i think it's oh

609
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:29,600
it's so beautifully done she was amazing

610
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:34,000
amy adams yeah um another my favorite um

611
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:34,840
is

612
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:37,440
wally oh wow i

613
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:39,039
that would never have crossed my mind

614
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:40,000
why

615
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:42,320
what because i

616
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:43,279
look at

617
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:48,400
countries we just consume consume

618
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:51,200
consume that is the american life you

619
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,120
know you always want to put on something

620
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,679
pretty for that person or

621
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:57,919
we're just a consumerism country

622
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:01,360
and so and you go to middle america or

623
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,799
small towns and it's all fast food

624
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,200
organic food fresh fruits and vegetables

625
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,200
is not available for a lot of these

626
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,039
communities especially the minority

627
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:13,520
communities so they just keep pushing in

628
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:16,480
the sugar and chemicals which

629
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:18,720
does not develop different senses that

630
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,400
we need and i think wall-e encompasses

631
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:24,000
how lazy

632
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:26,799
and complacent we can get

633
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:30,559
and we forget to take care of earth and

634
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:32,960
i at every corner

635
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,000
on this planet there is litter and trash

636
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,159
and it breaks my heart into so many

637
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,240
pieces i mean i started a an instagram

638
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:42,960
page called trash tins and sunsets

639
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:45,200
showing different parts of los angeles

640
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,320
of all the trash and um it we're not

641
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:50,559
what movies make us out to be this

642
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:53,440
beautiful palm tree town it has its

643
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:55,360
moments but over here you've got

644
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:57,200
encampments you've got

645
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:58,640
garb it's just

646
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:00,640
it makes me really sad that there isn't

647
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:03,919
a bigger movement to clean our planet up

648
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,919
and i know there's people trying

649
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,440
thank god

650
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:09,760
i really love these different agencies

651
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:12,480
to clean the ocean and the forest

652
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,880
and i just feel like we should take more

653
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,279
of a personal responsibility for that

654
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:19,600
and that's why i love wally i really do

655
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:22,159
you're right i you know it touches on so

656
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:23,440
many of those

657
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:26,960
uh societal and um eco

658
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:29,760
uh issues that we face and um

659
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,159
you know i i agree i lived in korea town

660
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:35,039
in downtown los angeles and um you know

661
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,159
coming

662
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,159
from new york city living in new york

663
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,039
city for like 10 and a half years i i

664
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,360
came to l.a being like nothing can phase

665
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,600
me nothing can really affect me and i

666
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,200
just remember the first few months

667
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:49,679
walking out of my building and there was

668
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:52,320
someone camped out like on the one

669
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:53,919
little patch of grass in front of my

670
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,080
apartment building and then lining the

671
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,559
entire you know curbside going down the

672
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,880
street and you go to somewhere like skid

673
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:02,640
row and it's the yeah

674
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,279
it's lit it's literally probably the

675
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:07,039
worst thing you'll ever see in

676
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:08,159
experience

677
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,640
all those people and um and you're right

678
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,960
there are those who do try to help and

679
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,919
um

680
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,000
and and whatnot but

681
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,320
you always wonder like

682
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:21,600
is it past the help of just a few people

683
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:24,400
picking up trash you know off of the

684
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,240
sidewalk anymore yeah it'll make a

685
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,120
difference of course it will but um i

686
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:31,760
think you're right wally sort of shows

687
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:34,320
the overall issue of these

688
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,960
conglomerates and these huge

689
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,120
corporations that are the ones really

690
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:41,840
damaging the planet and really

691
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:44,000
messing everything up for the rest of us

692
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:44,799
um

693
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:47,360
it makes you almost feel like anything i

694
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,840
do won't really matter but it's not true

695
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,000
and i think wally did a good job of

696
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,919
pointing that out it always puts that

697
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,000
this alien stuff always puts the mirror

698
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:58,480
back on us i don't know if you agree

699
00:27:02,950 --> 00:26:59,840
100

700
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,960
and that's what entertainment does right

701
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:05,039
yep it holds the mirror and we have to

702
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,640
hold each other and ourselves

703
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:07,840
accountable

704
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:08,799
and

705
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:11,120
it's so we're so overwhelmed with the

706
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:12,960
politics with what's going on in the

707
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:15,840
world the news the gossip

708
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:16,640
just

709
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:20,399
feet around you

710
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:22,159
in your own little bubble do the best

711
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,080
you can every day pick up that little

712
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,799
piece of trash just whatever's in your

713
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,279
little safe bubble and i think that's

714
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:31,600
the most you can do for you and for

715
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,960
those around you

716
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,120
absolutely yeah it's so overwhelming

717
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:37,840
let's just put that noise to the side

718
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:38,960
and

719
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:41,679
do our circle yep think of others i'm

720
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:48,470
yeah hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy

721
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,520
top

722
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:51,120
favorite

723
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:51,919
i

724
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:01,120
fell asleep

725
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:02,559
you got to watch it with me

726
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,360
okay

727
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:05,440
we'll do yeah we'll do one of those like

728
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:07,039
what do they call them

729
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:08,720
like watch parties or something on

730
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:11,840
facebook i i mean i know the story i

731
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,120
know like you know kind of the the the

732
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,840
concept of it but yeah um enlightened me

733
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,760
as the ignorant one who tried to watch

734
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,840
the movie and failed what what about

735
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,000
that movie stood out to you i think it's

736
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:26,720
just so cleverly written um i love all

737
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:30,720
the actors that are in it uh the bulgans

738
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:31,840
i think

739
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,799
are kind of like um

740
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:36,799
do i want to say a metaphor

741
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,320
to like how our government operates

742
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:42,960
a lot of paper pushing

743
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,159
right right um and just like

744
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,720
contradiction and hypocrisy i just

745
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:50,159
thought they did a beautiful job with

746
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,279
that and i i love sam rockwell he's

747
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:55,840
honestly one of my favorite actors um i

748
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,840
call him my third husband sorry sam i i

749
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:01,279
think you're amazing

750
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,240
uh when he did ironman his choice

751
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:06,159
there's a scene that he did with uh that

752
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:07,840
mickey work

753
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,720
in an airplane hangar and he's eating

754
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,559
and you look at his hands and he had put

755
00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:14,080
suntan lotion

756
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,350
so his hands were all orange i was like

757
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,000
[Laughter]

758
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,320
i love you he's a genius yeah he was

759
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:22,320
really good in um

760
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:25,679
oh gosh what was that one um moon yes

761
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:29,120
did you see that one yeah oh god that it

762
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:32,159
was such a like kubrick-esque sort of

763
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,159
um set up i think a lot of people have

764
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,559
even said like it's a the entire movie

765
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:38,159
is a homage to

766
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:41,200
2001 a space odyssey but yeah the dude

767
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,200
knows how to pick his roles and i think

768
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:45,600
he um he's made some really

769
00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:48,080
uh mind-bending and

770
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:48,760
and

771
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:51,760
humanity-questioning movies for sure

772
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:54,799
to him i love him yeah for sure here's

773
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:57,600
another good one um district nine

774
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:58,399
yep

775
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:01,200
because that just says how we just love

776
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:02,000
to

777
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:03,120
control

778
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:03,919
yep

779
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:07,120
put the others into little places and uh

780
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,960
it's a way to control them that movie

781
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:09,840
really

782
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:12,159
you know struck me too not just as like

783
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,799
an alien invasion movie obviously but

784
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:16,720
yeah it said so much about i think you

785
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,600
know

786
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:19,760
the current state of america at the time

787
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:22,480
and um kind of the way it's continued

788
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:26,000
up until today when dealing with um

789
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:29,120
foreigners mm-hmm you know the idea of

790
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,640
you know we don't know

791
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,320
where they come from what their

792
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,399
intentions are but we got to make sure

793
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:36,960
we control them to keep the status quo

794
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,200
so yeah a lot of a lot of good messages

795
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:42,000
in that one oh that makes me so sad

796
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:44,720
um what else what else there's so so

797
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,080
many movies i'm so happy you brought up

798
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:50,799
the jillian anderson ufo one who would

799
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,240
have thought you know right after

800
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,640
x-files she go on to do another ufo

801
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,799
project i mean it's fitting oh a good

802
00:31:02,310 --> 00:30:59,279
one is vast of the night

803
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,320
yes yeah that one that was a sleeper

804
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:03,600
movie i don't think a lot of people

805
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:04,559
really

806
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:07,519
saw that one but oh my god that single

807
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:10,799
track shot that they did

808
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:13,039
cinematically gorgeous

809
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:15,760
the actors were phenomenal in it like i

810
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:18,240
felt like i was back in that time being

811
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:21,200
part of the story um the shot with the

812
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:22,799
old lady where it was aside and then

813
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:25,919
when she did her reveal it was her full

814
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:28,640
face i thought it was just just so smart

815
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:31,840
i loved it i mean i got goosebumps i do

816
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:35,200
and that was made for 700 000

817
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,000
right so i and you know i

818
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:39,840
i tried to get the director to come on

819
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:42,960
my show um but the dude is like a ghost

820
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,679
online which i actually respect but like

821
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:47,600
i tried so hard to get in touch with

822
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:50,559
this guy and it was like impossible and

823
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:52,720
i was told he doesn't do many interviews

824
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,799
but i will i'm gonna reach out to

825
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:56,080
somebody because i know somebody that

826
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,760
was directly

827
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:00,240
lined up with that movie ooh i knew you

828
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:01,840
i knew you didn't okay

829
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,720
i'll let me i'll make a note and uh i'll

830
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:06,720
get back to you on that one get back to

831
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,200
me oh someone said best of night uh i

832
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:11,519
didn't expect to like it but i did it's

833
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:14,880
so true oh beautiful oh so good it was

834
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:17,120
so good um well

835
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,039
i know there's a lot of movies karina

836
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:21,200
but i gotta ask you about

837
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:24,559
documentaries no we talked a little bit

838
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,080
um off air about the recent jj abrams

839
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,039
documentary series ufo and i know you

840
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:33,679
literally like just watched it before we

841
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:36,399
came on here um so we're gonna get the

842
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,200
fresh review right now what'd you think

843
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:41,279
um it's jj abrams so you know it's going

844
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:42,799
to be beautifully done with all of his

845
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,519
light flares lens fires yeah to make it

846
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,519
very dramatic um

847
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:49,200
i i thought he

848
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,760
pretty much covered a lot of ground a

849
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:54,000
lot of topics i mean he

850
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,600
what's the woman's name um

851
00:33:03,110 --> 00:32:59,519
that for the phoenix lights where she

852
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:03,120
went and did her own uh investigating oh

853
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:04,720
uh yeah um

854
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,600
what was her name was it uh dr lynn

855
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,159
kitai oh gosh darn it i wish i had

856
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:12,960
written that down or francis barwood

857
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,840
that's what it is it's francis um i

858
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,440
loved her

859
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:18,960
tenacity

860
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:21,919
and here's the government the mayor was

861
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:24,240
was it the mayor of the town the

862
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:25,200
governor

863
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,399
and so there it is is the government and

864
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:34,799
the military gaslighting us everyday

865
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,080
people like no i i saw something and i

866
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,480
know that is not us

867
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,880
and i i just loved her perseverance and

868
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,399
trying to figure it out she's like i'm

869
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,200
not an idiot don't write in me

870
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,720
and they're like

871
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,200
i was gonna say so yeah you have kind of

872
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,880
this setup of like

873
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:54,960
i think you know the first two episodes

874
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:56,960
were really about all the stuff

875
00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:59,600
happening right now with the navy and um

876
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:02,000
and then they go to phoenix lights and

877
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,320
then it seems like the did you see the

878
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:06,960
whole thing i did yeah okay it took like

879
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:09,440
a really sharp turn kind of in those

880
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:12,079
last two episodes where um

881
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:15,599
he kind of flips it upside down and goes

882
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:18,720
like full into this whole idea of like

883
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,520
the government is lying to us it's all a

884
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:23,359
big disinformation

885
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,839
campaign and i was not expecting that i

886
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,960
thought this was going to be kind of

887
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:29,040
your you know

888
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,040
a-list kind of

889
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,679
um surface level documentary series yeah

890
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:35,679
what did you think yeah got really dirty

891
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:36,800
i was like

892
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:39,520
this is good because it makes me think

893
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:42,240
when we go back to the cold war um in

894
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,159
the 60s where people were afraid with

895
00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:45,679
the russians

896
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:48,240
were they did they make this whole alien

897
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,960
thing a way to distract right that magic

898
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,480
trick is what they're talking about

899
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:54,639
which makes a lot of sense let's give

900
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:58,079
them this huge theory let's distract

901
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:58,880
them

902
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:02,000
could that be what's happening now with

903
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,880
this disclosure movement are we

904
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:06,960
preparing for world war iii that's a

905
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:10,560
whole conspiracy on its own i don't know

906
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,160
is i do know that our

907
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:16,720
air force and our military they have

908
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,400
acknowledged that there is technology

909
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:20,800
that we have that we're not prepared as

910
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,480
everyday people to see

911
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:25,040
and then you can go back to eisenhower

912
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:25,920
where

913
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,280
supposedly

914
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,040
he

915
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:31,280
had a discussion with mr alien and mr

916
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,960
alien was like we are here to give you

917
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,320
this technology to help advance your

918
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:36,560
civilization and mr eisenhower is like

919
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,960
uh yeah no i don't i don't think we're

920
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:40,800
quite ready for that thank you

921
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:44,079
oh my god yeah i um i interviewed a

922
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:45,520
gentleman who wrote a book about that

923
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:46,480
entire

924
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,599
affair and um yeah i was like really on

925
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:51,839
the fence about it i'm like this is like

926
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,880
such a part of ufo mythology it's fun

927
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,040
and quirky and everything like thinking

928
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,119
about eisenhower like shaking hands with

929
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:01,200
a little little green man and everything

930
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:03,040
but the more this guy

931
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,839
um showed me like the documents and

932
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,920
stuff that he'd come up with and

933
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,160
supposedly witnessed testimony and

934
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:12,720
people involved i was like huh

935
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:15,599
maybe there could be something to this

936
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:17,520
but i think you brought up the really

937
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,599
important part about it like if it did

938
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,839
happen and they were willing to give us

939
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:23,280
this technology that could change

940
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,880
humanity and eisenhower's like no thanks

941
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,359
i'm kind of like are you kidding me dude

942
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,200
well they did they did that with tesla

943
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:33,200
didn't they

944
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,280
he made free energy and jp morgan and uh

945
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:39,359
what's that dude's name what's

946
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:41,599
electric what's um

947
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,550
uh ac dc benjamin franklin i i i'm so

948
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,160
bad with my history

949
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:54,480
anywho uh they just like ripped him

950
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:56,320
apart and threw him to the waters i

951
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:57,760
think tesla was

952
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,720
the father of energy anyways um back to

953
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,800
jj april yeah

954
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,640
he really went off there yeah yeah sorry

955
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:07,280
i went in a tangent um we both did i

956
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:09,680
never thought that we would be left to

957
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,560
question louise

958
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,800
i didn't i did not see that one coming

959
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:16,240
like all the work that he's been doing

960
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,079
you're saying now that he

961
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,079
was not directly in line with atip and

962
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:22,640
he's not part of it right that left him

963
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,599
confused it was it was a little dizzying

964
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,440
only because yes we asked these

965
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:29,200
questions when he first

966
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,880
came around but i think a lot of that's

967
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:33,119
been answered since then so it makes me

968
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:35,839
wonder did uh abrams and the creative

969
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:37,680
team choose to

970
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:40,240
um neglect that information i mean

971
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,079
senator harry reid

972
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,320
wrote a written statement saying he

973
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:46,880
headed a tip he was a part of it he was

974
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:49,119
exceptional at the job um but that

975
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,480
somehow didn't make it into this

976
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,400
documentary it's almost as if they

977
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,720
wanted to keep that you know in the

978
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:57,119
public's mind of this all could be you

979
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,000
know

980
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:00,800
um a lie and i i got a little frustrated

981
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:03,440
with that as well um well i think it's

982
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:06,079
extremely important to always question

983
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,200
these people who come out of

984
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:09,599
intelligence and and the government and

985
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,200
say we're going to help get the truth

986
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:12,800
out about ufos

987
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,480
i'm always a little hesitant with that

988
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,040
and i still have like yeah elizondo is a

989
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:18,960
nice guy i've interviewed him i i've

990
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,119
talked to him privately but it doesn't

991
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:23,359
mean i'm like you know i believe every

992
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:26,800
word the guy says um but i think the

993
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:29,760
documentary series did a poor job of of

994
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:32,240
covering that whole aspect all of it and

995
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:33,920
that's kind of where they lost me was

996
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,880
that whole

997
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:36,560
like pushing this

998
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:38,000
really um

999
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,550
yeah what are you guys trying to prove

1000
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:44,640
what's your intention here and that's my

1001
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:47,760
question what what's your agenda because

1002
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,640
even we can obviously ask the government

1003
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,320
and the military what's your agenda in

1004
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,400
releasing this information acknowledging

1005
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:56,880
that the tic tac is real and and what

1006
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:00,480
are you trying to do to our mindset like

1007
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:03,040
i that's where my question is

1008
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:04,079
i

1009
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:23,280
yeah everybody

1010
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,480
okay well

1011
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,560
what are your thoughts on that like we

1012
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:28,400
we learned that the secret pentagon

1013
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:32,320
program that uh was running had money

1014
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,960
given to robert bigelow who

1015
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,640
you know owned skinwalker ranch at one

1016
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:38,800
point and also like

1017
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:41,440
basically bought off mufon and got all

1018
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,480
of their

1019
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,880
their files and stuff like what do you

1020
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:46,800
think the end game is there with this

1021
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,680
bigelow guy he seems to have his hand in

1022
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,599
every cookie jar when it comes to all of

1023
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:53,920
this it's all about control isn't it

1024
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,400
yeah it's all about control and who has

1025
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:58,400
the most information can control the

1026
00:40:02,870 --> 00:39:59,839
rest

1027
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,880
so i feel like he's the howard hughes of

1028
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,880
the ufology world

1029
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:07,280
you can buy the answers right

1030
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,160
yeah absolutely i i mean i don't know

1031
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,000
everything can be just speculation at

1032
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:14,240
the end of the day i know as much as you

1033
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:16,960
know next to this person over here so we

1034
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,800
can just like

1035
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,880
we're we're just doing our best to try

1036
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,880
to put the pieces together because we

1037
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:25,200
know that there is something more to all

1038
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:28,240
of this puzzle and it can also go in the

1039
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,640
lines of religion where we all want to

1040
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:33,280
believe in something bigger than us

1041
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,079
and

1042
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:36,960
sometimes with those kinds of ideas with

1043
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:39,839
religion and aliens there is not going

1044
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:42,800
to be concrete proof it's a feeling and

1045
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:44,240
you can't

1046
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:46,960
argue someone's own reality when they're

1047
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,520
feeling something

1048
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,760
yeah and it's hard to i guess

1049
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:52,800
you know

1050
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:54,160
have a

1051
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,920
of set in their

1052
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,599
their beliefs and that's why i always

1053
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:01,280
you know when people ask me do you

1054
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,920
believe in ufos i'm like belief has

1055
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,960
nothing

1056
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,880
to do with that that you're immediately

1057
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:09,440
stepping into religion territory when

1058
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,079
you when you ask that question of belief

1059
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,160
um i don't really have that luxury like

1060
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:17,599
i saw ufo i'm not saying it was aliens

1061
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,599
or anything like that i have no idea

1062
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:22,800
what it was but um i i

1063
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,160
i know i know there's things out there

1064
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,839
something yeah

1065
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:30,319
it gave you a feeling in your body i

1066
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:33,040
can't argue with you on that there's no

1067
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:34,880
way you can't argue with somebody who's

1068
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:37,760
like i had an encounter that i cannot

1069
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,680
quite explain but it's made me feel

1070
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,720
something

1071
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:42,400
like that's you can't take that away

1072
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:43,760
from anybody

1073
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:44,480
i

1074
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:53,599
that there's my moulder

1075
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,079
that came out um awesome i'm guessing

1076
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:58,160
one of your favorite episodes was the uh

1077
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:01,359
what was it the amazing malini or

1078
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:04,160
whatever it was with the magician oh god

1079
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,680
oh my god yeah he's in eight or nine

1080
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:09,680
i did all of x files i think during

1081
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:10,800
quarantine

1082
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,400
yep i did too i did too um well you know

1083
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:16,720
effects on people uh that was another

1084
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,599
big part of the the jj abrams series

1085
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,240
with um kevin day the chief radar

1086
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,800
operator who kind of first tracked the

1087
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:26,400
tic tac ufos

1088
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:30,960
um off of catalina island in 2004 and um

1089
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:33,920
man like i got goosebumps when he was on

1090
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,160
screen being like this is really hard

1091
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,400
for me and like this this thing ruined

1092
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,880
my life and yeah oh yeah you felt it

1093
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,599
when he was talking huh oh god so you

1094
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:46,079
know i interviewed kevin for my book and

1095
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,440
it was really interesting because the

1096
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,599
way they told his story it was like the

1097
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,839
exact arc of the chapter in my book and

1098
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,240
i was like who read my book who wrote my

1099
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:56,880
book that wrote that episode but no it's

1100
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,760
you know

1101
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:00,000
it's logical the way his story plays out

1102
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:02,800
in terms of um how they presented it but

1103
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:04,880
when he said like when i saw that tic

1104
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:06,319
tac video on

1105
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,560
the screen you know when it flashed

1106
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:11,119
across the news i started crying so i'm

1107
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:12,400
like there it is

1108
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:16,000
there's what i saw in 2004 wow everyone

1109
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:18,400
said i was crazy um i didn't talk about

1110
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:21,599
it for so long it like was such a you

1111
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:24,560
know detrimental part of my life and now

1112
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,280
here it is in front of all of the world

1113
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,000
and i i would imagine for him it was

1114
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,480
vindication as a lot of this stuff is

1115
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:34,160
now that a lot more people are taking it

1116
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:35,280
seriously

1117
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:37,599
um yeah what are your thoughts on that

1118
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:39,839
are we closer or are these people who've

1119
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:42,960
had experiences are they vindicated now

1120
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,200
i think so we're getting there aren't we

1121
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,280
i mean all we want in life is a little

1122
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,040
bit of validation

1123
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:51,359
and to not feel crazy at the end of the

1124
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:52,240
day

1125
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:54,160
there's just enough stress as there is

1126
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,200
but

1127
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,800
just validation

1128
00:44:02,790 --> 00:43:59,119
that's all we're asking for stop i'm

1129
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:02,800
gonna use this word again gaslighting

1130
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:05,119
come on you know they they did this to

1131
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:07,760
francis farmer in the 50s she was an

1132
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,880
actress

1133
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:11,440
and she wanted better roles for us she

1134
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:14,560
was speaking up on feminism points and

1135
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:17,040
the studios and her own mother threw her

1136
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,079
into uh insane asylums

1137
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,079
and she was like trying like no i'm not

1138
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:23,920
crazy and they kept pushing her in there

1139
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,680
so they were doing lobotomies on her as

1140
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,280
well

1141
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,599
uh that's a whole nother story i highly

1142
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:31,760
recommend if you guys go down that that

1143
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,720
rabbit hole because she uh okay oh it

1144
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,319
gives me goosebumps it makes me angry

1145
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:38,640
that people were doing this and

1146
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,200
well and we know that they've done this

1147
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:43,359
in different ways and iterations

1148
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:46,160
throughout history you know the

1149
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:48,880
as much as we might here's here's the

1150
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:52,000
dilemma and everyone brings this up um

1151
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,319
it's kind of become a meme now is

1152
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,040
why is everyone now willing to

1153
00:45:02,630 --> 00:44:59,200
believe and trust the government when it

1154
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,640
comes to ufos when like for the last 70

1155
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,400
years we've been saying they're lying

1156
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,640
they've lied they covered this up and

1157
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:09,520
and this and that it's an interesting

1158
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,599
question to ponder for sure why are

1159
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,920
people so quick to now be like oh

1160
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,520
they're like here it is here's the

1161
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,040
answers we've always wanted but it's

1162
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,960
like hold on

1163
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:20,400
like why are we

1164
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,200
why

1165
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,119
i don't know what do you think a little

1166
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:25,359
trepidation please

1167
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:28,079
let's uh take baby steps because these

1168
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:29,599
are

1169
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:32,079
ah god you just don't know who to trust

1170
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,599
that's coming out with this information

1171
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,440
because then we go back to what's your

1172
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:37,680
agenda what is it that you're trying to

1173
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,560
do

1174
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:40,400
are you trying to distract us are you

1175
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:42,800
really wanting to help us

1176
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,680
which one is it and i feel like it's in

1177
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,359
the middle

1178
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:49,760
and that's our job to figure it out

1179
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:51,920
right you got the chocolate ice cream

1180
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,839
you got the vanilla ice cream here's the

1181
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,359
swirl

1182
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,839
i love the perfect analogy i love it

1183
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:00,079
also um dave ghost thank you for the

1184
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:03,359
9.99 um super chat i really appreciate

1185
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:06,079
it man um if you're just joining us

1186
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:08,560
we're resetting the room as my my buddy

1187
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:12,640
luis zoe says um we are here with karina

1188
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:15,119
and we are talking all about ufos

1189
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:18,720
hollywood and ufos um the government in

1190
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,680
ufos we're covering it all tonight so i

1191
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:24,400
guess moving back to movies any other

1192
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,920
ones really stick out to you or um tv

1193
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,280
shoes

1194
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,000
i mean alf is my favorite

1195
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,040
elf oh i never got into l unfortunately

1196
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,520
it's just dumb it's dumb but there's an

1197
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:39,680
alien living with a suburban white

1198
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,800
family

1199
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,200
perfect take it you gotta leave it a

1200
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:45,040
galaxy quest

1201
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:46,800
oh that's a good one i didn't even think

1202
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,440
about that one rest in peace mr alan

1203
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:53,910
i just i think it's just a great movie

1204
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:55,920
all around everybody is fantastic the

1205
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,400
way it's written shot i just

1206
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,119
i loved it i loved it a lot

1207
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:03,920
that was a good one um did you watch uh

1208
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,000
did you watch project blue book the

1209
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:08,400
history i did not no

1210
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:09,440
um

1211
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:14,240
of people you know thought it really did

1212
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,359
the ufo field um harm because they

1213
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:20,880
really exaggerated a lot of the actual

1214
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,119
case history that jay allen heineck

1215
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:25,280
investigated for project blue book but

1216
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,559
you know tv it's tv it's entertainment i

1217
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,640
try to remind people that same with

1218
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,040
x-files same with everything that's out

1219
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:35,280
there

1220
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,359
like we were saying earlier at least the

1221
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:39,680
conversation has started

1222
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:40,640
yeah

1223
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,880
so totally so many people who never knew

1224
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,040
who jl and heinek was now

1225
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,839
know who he was and i think that's

1226
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:49,920
incredible he's one of our heroes in the

1227
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,880
ufo field at least for me personally and

1228
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,800
um you know really went in saying

1229
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,800
there's nothing to all this and

1230
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:58,480
came out on the other side not a

1231
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:01,280
believer but like an acceptor that you

1232
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,960
know even though he was an astronomer

1233
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,000
there were

1234
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:06,079
so there was so much in the universe

1235
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,440
that he still

1236
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,839
couldn't explain and um i thought that

1237
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:11,680
the show did a beautiful job with that

1238
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:12,800
um good

1239
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,040
that makes me happy um what about

1240
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:16,960
roswell do you ever see any of the

1241
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,280
roswell oriented stuff on

1242
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,000
in the uh hollywood sphere

1243
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,880
didn't i are there any movies about

1244
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,119
roswell i mean there's paul

1245
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:29,200
there's paul there was a

1246
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:30,720
made for

1247
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,680
did a movie on roswell it was starring

1248
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:37,680
um kyle mclaughlin

1249
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,319
from twin peaks he played you know the

1250
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,480
military officer who first was on site

1251
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,280
during the how did i crash this one i'm

1252
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:47,200
always looking for good alien sci-fi

1253
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:50,960
movies 1994 roswell check it out for

1254
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:52,880
sure put it on the list

1255
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:56,079
yeah and i'm typing it in

1256
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:58,480
anonymous rex says the show highlighted

1257
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,000
the fact that abductions have shifted

1258
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:03,119
from physical to mental interest right

1259
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:04,079
yeah

1260
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,559
i love that because now let's go into

1261
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,319
into um

1262
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:12,640
into the mind right you got your

1263
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,839
interstellar you have what else is there

1264
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:17,440
uh tenant

1265
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,069
[Music]

1266
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,240
what other ones are there

1267
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:26,319
anyways i deal with the mind eternal

1268
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:27,760
sunshine

1269
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,800
um

1270
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,720
because then

1271
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:32,559
i'm losing my track of thought

1272
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:33,280
it's

1273
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,119
i i think you're you're on the right

1274
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,839
track because there's so much of this

1275
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:39,680
like nuts and bolts

1276
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,240
alien lands someone sees it or like is

1277
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,640
abducted by aliens this that but there's

1278
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,640
also this whole other end of the

1279
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:49,040
spectrum where like this could all have

1280
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:50,800
to do with consciousness

1281
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:54,000
too in time and space and and all that

1282
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:55,920
sort of stuff right so then so then

1283
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:57,839
let's go into that is

1284
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,200
meditation

1285
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,160
right we ask ourselves the questions we

1286
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,079
go into meditation and that's where we

1287
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:06,559
see the answers

1288
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:11,200
and once we are consciously aware of who

1289
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,160
we are inside and we tap into earth we

1290
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:16,800
go grounding which i highly like i'm a

1291
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:19,280
big fan of um

1292
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,109
matthew's on board with everything

1293
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:28,000
you're saying he loves it i love this

1294
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,000
i think it's all connected it really is

1295
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,000
because then there's the telepathy

1296
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,800
um that they say is how they can

1297
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:36,880
communicate with us and i've heard that

1298
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,440
from encounters i had a girlfriend

1299
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:41,760
her best friend was walking to her house

1300
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:44,079
one night and she felt

1301
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:47,920
a presence above her and she saw a craft

1302
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:51,119
of some sort and they got into her mind

1303
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,920
like

1304
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,480
kind of in a sinky songy type

1305
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,960
talk they're like we're not here to hurt

1306
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,920
you

1307
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:59,760
we're and they kept repeating this but

1308
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,720
it was

1309
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,319
a little

1310
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,800
dark in its own way so she ran into her

1311
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,079
house because it scared the living

1312
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,520
daylights out of her yeah i can imagine

1313
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:10,960
what do you do

1314
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:13,599
do you buy into this whole

1315
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,319
like what do they call it ce5

1316
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:19,200
where like we can initiate contact with

1317
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,119
aliens by using meditation techniques or

1318
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:25,599
are able to like vector in the ufos by

1319
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,720
using our

1320
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:28,480
collective consciousness is that

1321
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,800
something you you think is possible i

1322
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,480
think it's all yeah because i think

1323
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:34,720
you've had a lot of people uh

1324
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:37,040
that are giving their encounter stories

1325
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,480
where they would just look up and they

1326
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,680
would focus and they would think

1327
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,119
something and then the craft or the

1328
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,359
light the orb would move

1329
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,920
or their thoughts were somehow connected

1330
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:47,440
to these orbs that are moving around the

1331
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:51,440
sky i'm so fascinated with that and i

1332
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:54,480
ryan every single day my head is always

1333
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,559
up looking like i want to see something

1334
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,079
that sometimes i'm just too desperate

1335
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:00,160
and they're like we we need to let her

1336
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:02,880
um chill out for a second

1337
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,440
she's a little too overzealous to see us

1338
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,839
yeah too excited she needs to she needs

1339
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:10,000
to calm down um

1340
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:11,119
i

1341
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:15,359
well that you know and that's a good

1342
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:16,559
that a good

1343
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,319
way to kind of frame that is so many

1344
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,640
people have come to me and said i never

1345
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,720
thought about aliens i never like

1346
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:24,720
thought about ufos i wasn't a sky

1347
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:27,760
watcher and this experience literally

1348
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,119
like fell into my lap it just happened

1349
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:33,440
and it changed my life i didn't seek it

1350
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:36,640
out um i had no interest and then boom

1351
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:39,119
it happened so it does make you truly

1352
00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:40,720
wonder like

1353
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,079
is

1354
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,200
intention

1355
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:47,760
of whatever the phenomena is

1356
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,680
to kind of

1357
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:52,160
you know touch the lives of those who

1358
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:54,559
haven't thought about it or would never

1359
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:57,599
think about it um whereas there's people

1360
00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:00,319
like you and so many others out there

1361
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,079
who are like

1362
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,599
i don't want to use the word desperately

1363
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,680
that's condescending but are like

1364
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:08,000
tenacious maybe a little you could say

1365
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:10,160
you've you got a couple bruises from

1366
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:12,880
running into things looking up so much

1367
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,040
it's true i'm not gonna lie i will not

1368
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:17,200
sugarcoat that one for you

1369
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:19,680
but yeah you do have to wonder like

1370
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,720
is it

1371
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,119
because i feel like if you look for it

1372
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:25,280
you're always gonna be let down even if

1373
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,920
you were to have an experience um it's

1374
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,040
probably not going to be what you

1375
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:31,440
expected i know a lot of people who

1376
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,359
really seek this stuff out they're

1377
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,599
always like yeah like i saw a light in

1378
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,440
the sky but it could have been anything

1379
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,280
and then the person who never thought

1380
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,040
about it in their life they're the ones

1381
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,200
to get like the close encounter of the

1382
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,680
third kind where they could like see

1383
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:48,160
every light on the craft and

1384
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:49,520
stuff like that

1385
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:52,400
i did um i went to inte i took myself on

1386
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:53,040
a

1387
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:58,319
um

1388
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,440
it's

1389
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,680
i highly recommend you all to to

1390
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,599
research the integratron and the science

1391
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,960
and the physics behind it the way that

1392
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:06,720
it was built and why it was built and

1393
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,800
where it's at i think it's really

1394
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:10,800
fascinating because it uh lines in the

1395
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:14,160
same electric magnetic grill grid as the

1396
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,440
pyramids

1397
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:17,680
um interesting so there's a lot of

1398
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,040
energy in this area um anywho

1399
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:23,119
i i had a beautiful time i love it it's

1400
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,000
a sound bath so it's all about frequency

1401
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:27,839
and energy which i believe is what we

1402
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,319
are made out of and that's what connects

1403
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:32,800
us to they i want to say

1404
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:36,240
is that frequency and energy um

1405
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:38,160
we can also get into hurts and but

1406
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:41,839
that's another topic but uh my point is

1407
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:45,040
i got stephen greer's app

1408
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:45,920
right

1409
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,040
i paid that money so i think it was 7.99

1410
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:50,960
so there's like a meditation on there to

1411
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,079
try to call upon them so i was like i

1412
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,240
was i had a convertible beetle it's late

1413
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:57,920
at night i'm gonna pull off on the dark

1414
00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:00,400
side of the road so dumb

1415
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,079
it sounds like an abduction waiting to

1416
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:04,559
happen oh my god um i was asking for it

1417
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:05,599
and i was like listening to the

1418
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,720
meditation and i'm like okay cool um i'm

1419
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:10,720
starting to scare myself

1420
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,280
i'm gonna go home so i get onto the

1421
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,520
highway and i'm

1422
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:17,520
stupidly always looking up

1423
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,799
and i saw a black matte type craft kind

1424
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:22,240
of like the one that my girlfriend said

1425
00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:25,760
she saw right in santa clarita

1426
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:28,240
i and it was like a blip of a second i

1427
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:29,520
looked up and i'm like still driving i

1428
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,520
gotta focus and i was like wait a minute

1429
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:33,599
that was not a helicopter i could see it

1430
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,280
because the lights the orange lights

1431
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,079
from the streets was reflecting

1432
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,160
okay let me make another stupid decision

1433
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,680
let me pull off the highway go down

1434
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:43,200
another dark road get on top of a

1435
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:48,309
i did that i didn't see anything i

1436
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,680
waited i

1437
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,440
did i call upon something due in a

1438
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:53,440
minute i don't know was an actual

1439
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,520
something i don't know

1440
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:57,599
huh interesting

1441
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,880
there there

1442
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:00,480
there seems to be some sort of

1443
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:02,240
parapsychological

1444
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,280
uh

1445
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,920
i think you know connection i i do think

1446
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,599
like you said i've spoken to so many

1447
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,720
people who

1448
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:10,960
have seen something and been like

1449
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:12,880
move to the left and

1450
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:14,960
whatever the orb or whatever moves to

1451
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,960
the left or one guy i talked to in um i

1452
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:20,640
believe it was michigan

1453
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,359
you know had like an sos game with the

1454
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:25,760
headlights of his truck and

1455
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:29,119
this string of orbs over lake michigan

1456
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,280
like literally he'd flash his lights and

1457
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:34,079
it would flash back and you know it

1458
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:36,559
wasn't a plane it wasn't like a ship on

1459
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:40,000
the water these were you know singular

1460
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,760
stationary lights out there over the

1461
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,599
water and like

1462
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,280
as soon as he would try to communicate

1463
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,040
with it it would communicate back to him

1464
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,200
so i don't know i don't know what to

1465
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:51,359
make of all that do they have a sense of

1466
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:52,990
humor that's what i want to know

1467
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:54,319
[Music]

1468
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:55,760
you know what

1469
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:58,240
i'm going to say yes because you look at

1470
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:01,680
some of these abduction cases and um i

1471
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:03,119
want to touch on abductions with you in

1472
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,079
just a moment but you hear of people who

1473
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:07,680
have been abducted

1474
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:10,319
and when they're brought back like their

1475
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:13,599
clothes will be on inside out or

1476
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:16,240
uh there was one case that

1477
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:18,640
a buddy of mine rob told me about where

1478
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,119
someone was abducted out of their car

1479
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:23,680
while they were driving on the freeway

1480
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:26,000
and they were when they were brought

1481
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:29,680
back they were put into the wrong car

1482
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:32,000
and that person was put into the other

1483
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:33,280
person's car

1484
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,799
and they didn't realize it until they

1485
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:36,480
both eventually pulled over and they're

1486
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:37,200
like

1487
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:39,040
sorry i don't know what happened um have

1488
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:41,200
a nice day and those are the moments

1489
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,559
where i'm like

1490
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:45,040
either they really messed up or they

1491
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:47,599
have a really weird sense of humor

1492
00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:49,920
they don't have um what is it those

1493
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:52,839
script doctors on sets

1494
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:55,359
continuity they don't have one of those

1495
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,040
people

1496
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,119
the the button was actually the top one

1497
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:00,960
was undone

1498
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,200
you gotta go back yeah continuity

1499
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:08,549
oh man i don't know but i do i do think

1500
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:11,119
sometimes they do have a sense of humor

1501
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:13,760
um but it's not always a laughing matter

1502
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,520
um you know when it comes to abduction

1503
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:17,200
some of these are pretty

1504
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:19,119
pretty freaky and pretty traumatizing

1505
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:21,040
for people um what do you make of

1506
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:23,200
abductions any of them really stand out

1507
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,480
to you

1508
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:26,319
i was little when fire in the sky came

1509
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:27,680
out i remember seeing that in the

1510
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:31,119
theater and oh boy oh boy oh boy was i

1511
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:33,040
peeping in my pants because that's

1512
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:36,160
scared that scared me a lot and as an

1513
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:38,799
adult watching it yeah i'm still scared

1514
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:40,960
um and you know they came out with that

1515
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,599
documentary discrediting them and

1516
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:46,079
they're all saying oh yeah i was a hoax

1517
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:46,880
um

1518
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:48,000
i don't

1519
00:59:09,670 --> 00:58:53,599
i

1520
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,680
um

1521
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:11,760
all those dudes passed those lie

1522
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:15,040
detector tests right you know and

1523
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:18,880
their stories lined up and i don't know

1524
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:22,000
i can't come to accept that um

1525
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:25,119
it was an elaborate hoax i just don't i

1526
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:27,680
i feel like we would have known that by

1527
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,920
now there would have been so many holes

1528
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,160
in the story that would um eventually

1529
00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:34,079
come to light and right now it seems

1530
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:34,880
that

1531
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:37,440
some people are trying to discredit the

1532
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:38,880
travis walton

1533
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:40,880
uh abduction and saying that it was all

1534
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:44,160
a hoax but um i still have hope

1535
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:45,680
something happened up there in a

1536
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,079
snowflake i i do too i mean these people

1537
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,079
they're not actors they're they're

1538
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:52,400
working men they work with their hands

1539
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,319
they work outdoors i know that you know

1540
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:56,480
they're saying there was some kind of

1541
01:00:02,309 --> 00:59:59,200
money issue that was going on

1542
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:02,319
um i i just don't i don't buy it because

1543
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,680
here we are again they're trying to

1544
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:05,760
discredit these people in their stories

1545
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,640
and

1546
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:08,640
it just feels too factual i know the

1547
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:09,839
movie

1548
01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:10,720
i

1549
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:33,839
of the

1550
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:36,720
the horror-esque elements um in the

1551
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:40,319
movie uh where he says that yeah it was

1552
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:42,960
they got the feeling right like how he

1553
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:45,280
felt while he was up there and this idea

1554
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:48,559
of isolation and terrified and all that

1555
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,280
um but that you know he met several

1556
01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:53,520
races of aliens while he was on the

1557
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:55,760
craft he even like took something off

1558
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:57,839
the experiment table and like tried to

1559
01:01:01,510 --> 01:01:00,559
hit one of the aliens at one point but

1560
01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:01,520
um

1561
01:01:08,829 --> 01:01:05,040
yeah yeah it's fascinating i i my so

1562
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:08,839
there's two stories my hair stylist

1563
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:12,559
um good leading thank you she's uh into

1564
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:14,480
joe dispenza she does a lot of the

1565
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:18,160
metaphysics the modalities and hypnotism

1566
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:21,119
and she's she's deep deep into it she

1567
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:22,960
goes like the galactic federation which

1568
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:24,799
you see in men in black what you see on

1569
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:27,839
um star wars star trek is kind of close

1570
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:29,119
to the truth

1571
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:30,559
of what's going on up there with these

1572
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:31,920
different races

1573
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:33,520
um

1574
01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:36,640
great cool i'll buy it sure

1575
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:39,760
if you say so because also i i was on

1576
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:41,599
set once and the makeup artist her dad

1577
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,599
worked for nasa

1578
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:45,359
and there was one you're gonna love this

1579
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:49,200
oh it's so good so in the cafeteria um

1580
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:51,280
they always have tv monitors showing

1581
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:53,920
live footage of what's going on up there

1582
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:55,200
and

1583
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:56,160
for a

1584
01:02:02,630 --> 01:01:59,520
moment something flew onto the screen

1585
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,640
and then the the footage was cut it went

1586
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:04,400
to black and everybody in that cafeteria

1587
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:06,559
saw something and they were just like

1588
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:07,920
looking around

1589
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:10,480
after that people were trailing all

1590
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:12,160
those people that were in the cafeteria

1591
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:13,680
digging through the garbage saying you

1592
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:16,160
can't say anything nothing can happen

1593
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:17,359
um

1594
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:18,880
you know scaring the daylights out of

1595
01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:21,680
these people if you open your mouth

1596
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,599
so who knows you know

1597
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:25,200
yeah we we've heard a lot of stories

1598
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:27,760
from ex-nasa employees of like them

1599
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,079
scrubbing footage or um

1600
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:32,240
you know even images that have been

1601
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:35,119
taken of certain um you know aerial

1602
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,039
shots of the earth like they'll

1603
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:39,520
photoshop things out of them

1604
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,319
again this could all be like conspiracy

1605
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:44,400
theory stuff but there are a lot of

1606
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,000
credible people who've said that that

1607
01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:48,079
has happened so yeah you know i'm open

1608
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:50,799
to that possibility that yeah of course

1609
01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:52,799
nasa is going to have things out there

1610
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:55,599
that that can't be explained and look

1611
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,400
that's their fault for doing like 24 7

1612
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,319
live feeds out there like what do you

1613
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:02,000
expect people are going to watch that

1614
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,240
for like 10 hours if they don't have to

1615
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:06,480
go to work and like

1616
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:09,520
look for stuff like ufos i know i have

1617
01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:11,920
for sure i'm always like what was that

1618
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:13,359
oh yeah

1619
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:15,599
it's just yeah just space junk just

1620
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:16,480
space

1621
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:19,839
um what about betty and barney hill i

1622
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:21,760
know we talked a little bit about that

1623
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:24,079
off air is that another one you buy into

1624
01:03:50,230 --> 01:03:25,200
i

1625
01:03:52,710 --> 01:03:50,240
tapes

1626
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:52,720
those are screams that are coming from

1627
01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:55,039
your belly that is not a fake scream

1628
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:56,880
whatsoever so there is something that

1629
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:00,000
had happened yeah now

1630
01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:02,400
what is it that abducted them could it

1631
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:04,880
have been our military

1632
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:07,200
to do experiments

1633
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:09,760
or is it of something

1634
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:11,440
something else

1635
01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:13,280
do you think that's

1636
01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:15,200
a possibility i have talked to people

1637
01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:16,799
who believe that their abduction

1638
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:19,039
experiences were not alien that they

1639
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:20,079
were

1640
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:23,920
done by a military branch or i had 100

1641
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,319
yeah yeah because look at our all of our

1642
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:28,559
governments in every country has done

1643
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:31,039
human experiments without our consent

1644
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:34,240
yeah a hundred percent mk ultra project

1645
01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:36,160
itch um

1646
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:37,760
even um

1647
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:40,079
transferring a monkey's head to human

1648
01:04:42,870 --> 01:04:41,280
body

1649
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:42,880
i mean it's like the real island of dr

1650
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,400
moreau isn't it like there's a whole

1651
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:46,559
island where they do these experiments

1652
01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:49,280
um there's elrad sonar warfare that

1653
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:51,200
they're using today that scares that

1654
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:52,480
scares me

1655
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:54,160
because we have no control over that

1656
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:57,440
whatsoever um what other

1657
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:00,240
the chemicals that are in our everyday

1658
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:03,680
tuskegee experiments i know is a big one

1659
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:05,520
you're right like there's horrible

1660
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:07,920
things we've done um in the name of

1661
01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:11,760
science and in national security but um

1662
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:13,280
that's interesting that you would tie

1663
01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:14,400
that to the

1664
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:15,920
betty and barney hill abduction i've

1665
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:17,280
heard that before

1666
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:19,520
that this was kind of their first test

1667
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:22,480
run was with this couple and um

1668
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:23,839
look there have been people who've come

1669
01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:26,160
forward and said that a lot of these ufo

1670
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:28,000
cases we've come to know as

1671
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:29,680
famous were also

1672
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:32,640
like staged military operations stuff

1673
01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:36,079
like roswell um another big one is the

1674
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:38,400
the rendelsham forest incident in

1675
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:39,440
england

1676
01:05:43,829 --> 01:05:40,400
um

1677
01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:43,839
where like 60 military personnel saw a

1678
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:46,000
ufo land in a forest

1679
01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:50,000
and saw like beings get out and like the

1680
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:53,039
craft flew away and this and that and

1681
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:55,599
um all the military people

1682
01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:57,599
said they felt really like

1683
01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:59,599
dizzy while this was happening and like

1684
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,760
time slowed down time

1685
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,079
sped up everything was a little weird

1686
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:06,640
and the guy i spoke to he had an

1687
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:08,640
interesting argument he's like it was

1688
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,760
total

1689
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,359
like either

1690
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:13,520
some sort of like sonar

1691
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:15,119
experiment where it could mess with

1692
01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:17,280
their heads or it was all like

1693
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:19,839
straight-up holograms they were testing

1694
01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:23,280
early hologram technology so oh no

1695
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,280
i don't know look what they're doing to

1696
01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:27,680
our oceans with a sonar testing they're

1697
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:29,520
completely wiping out the whale and

1698
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:32,319
dolphin uh communities because they they

1699
01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:35,119
migrate based off of their own sonar

1700
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:37,119
that's directly linked to earth and

1701
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:39,119
we're screwing with that

1702
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:40,880
we're also screwing with a migration of

1703
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:44,000
birds we're just we are screwing it up

1704
01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:46,799
heavily and i 100 believe in human

1705
01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:48,880
experiments you can go back to the nazis

1706
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:52,079
they're linked to so much i mean the u.s

1707
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:54,400
brought over the nazis after world war

1708
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:55,839
ii like hey we're going to hide you guys

1709
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,280
as long as you do these experiments and

1710
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,440
help us out right yeah get us up into

1711
01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:01,680
space yeah exactly

1712
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:03,280
uh i

1713
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:05,520
man they're dirty

1714
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,039
america plays dirty for sure dirty well

1715
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:11,119
this kind of just hit me so i want to

1716
01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:14,400
ask you in terms of um the ocean

1717
01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:17,119
now probably the most famous case now is

1718
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:19,760
the the tic-tac event off of catalina

1719
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,599
island that we saw in the

1720
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:23,760
j.j abrams documentary and everything

1721
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:25,520
now um

1722
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,760
do you think that was

1723
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:29,440
a military

1724
01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:32,000
operation like was whatever these

1725
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,920
fighter pilots saw out there and was

1726
01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:35,520
caught on radar

1727
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:38,000
a lot of people theorized maybe it was

1728
01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:39,280
the air force

1729
01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:42,319
testing something on the navy or this

1730
01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:45,680
was all a huge test within the navy to

1731
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:48,319
see how the pilots reacted um

1732
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:49,680
whatever it was

1733
01:07:53,589 --> 01:07:52,079
you know it was dangerous yeah like the

1734
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:53,599
pilots could have

1735
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:55,760
you know crashed into something or and

1736
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:57,280
anything could have happened is what i'm

1737
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:59,039
trying to say so yeah

1738
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,480
what do you make of this whole tic tac

1739
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,160
event was this something that could have

1740
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:05,200
been ours uh uh anything i you cannot

1741
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:07,599
rule it out right um

1742
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:08,480
i

1743
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:35,520
bases that we have learned

1744
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,400
ish

1745
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,560
of alien underwater base that they're

1746
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:40,400
there off of catalina island i mean look

1747
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,440
at the los angeles um what was it the

1748
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:45,279
invasion the alien invasion was it in

1749
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:46,480
the 30s

1750
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:48,480
do you remember that story

1751
01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:50,480
vaguely yeah but what if they came from

1752
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,640
our waters over here i've heard i've had

1753
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:54,480
friends where they go out to the beach

1754
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:55,600
and they're just sitting there and they

1755
01:08:59,189 --> 01:08:57,440
start to see lights shoot out from the

1756
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:59,199
water it was just like

1757
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:01,440
there's no explanation for it

1758
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:04,480
again it's a fine line i feel like it's

1759
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:06,640
right in the middle of everything

1760
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:08,799
yeah i think you're right you know i've

1761
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:10,960
done a lot of research into

1762
01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:12,799
otec which is a

1763
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:16,159
underwater base um in the caribbean and

1764
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:18,159
same thing like this is where they test

1765
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,080
a lot of underwater warfare stuff and um

1766
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:24,480
you know this base is under water yet

1767
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:27,359
the restricted airspace above it goes

1768
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:29,600
all the way up into space so you're like

1769
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:32,239
why is an underwater base why do they

1770
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:35,279
have such restricted huge areas cordoned

1771
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,520
off that reach even up into the outer

1772
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,839
reaches of space you truly have to

1773
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:41,359
wonder so

1774
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:42,480
i don't know

1775
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,640
field trip field trip

1776
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:46,560
we're going i i'm not the best of

1777
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:48,159
swimmers karina i'm going to be honest

1778
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:50,880
but um i'll let you i'll let you do that

1779
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:54,000
one um actually no you're so close to

1780
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,640
catalina yeah we'll get you out there

1781
01:10:03,189 --> 01:09:58,719
for sure um

1782
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:03,199
well let's move to another sort of meaty

1783
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:06,320
topic controversial um and we're going

1784
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:08,400
on about an hour here so everyone thank

1785
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,320
you so much for joining us i'm trying to

1786
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:12,719
keep up with the chat here let's see

1787
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:14,800
matthew says hoax i think he was talking

1788
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:18,320
about travis walton oh um

1789
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:21,600
dave says water aliens nice yep

1790
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:24,080
i honestly think our oceans hold so many

1791
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:26,400
more mysteries than yeah anything up in

1792
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:28,239
space and we should probably be looking

1793
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:30,159
down there i agree look at the movie

1794
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:32,960
abyss beautifully done yeah

1795
01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:35,280
yep that's where it's at i'm telling you

1796
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:38,239
i think a lot more of this ufo stuff we

1797
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,280
should be looking down for sure um

1798
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:43,440
well let's move to

1799
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:45,840
ancient aliens you know we've got the

1800
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:48,640
meme you know giorgio ciclos of the big

1801
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:50,080
hair and

1802
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:53,360
aliens built the pyramids blah blah blah

1803
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:56,480
um they're going on their 14th season

1804
01:11:00,070 --> 01:10:57,679
holy

1805
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,080
if you can believe it um which is

1806
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:02,640
insane to think that anything alien

1807
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,600
related could you know

1808
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:07,520
be on television that long and people

1809
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,520
are still watching even though they're

1810
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:11,520
now up to not ancient aliens they're up

1811
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,719
to like the pentagon ufo stuff but um

1812
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:16,480
what do you think are are you into this

1813
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:18,960
whole eric von daniken

1814
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:21,760
ancient astronauts like have aliens been

1815
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:23,920
here for millennia

1816
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:24,960
gosh

1817
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,920
where do we where do you start i i first

1818
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:30,000
started love i loved ancient aliens i

1819
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:31,600
was like oh this is so fascinating

1820
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:33,199
finally somebody's doing this and

1821
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,120
putting this information out there then

1822
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,199
i found a guy that debunked all of

1823
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:39,520
ancient aliens and i was like oh

1824
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:41,679
like it usually it's just a simple

1825
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:42,880
answer

1826
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:44,320
i

1827
01:12:02,310 --> 01:11:59,520
had the technology back then we had the

1828
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:02,320
manpower we also had mammoths during

1829
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:03,840
that time

1830
01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:04,640
i

1831
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:12,080
don't have today

1832
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:14,080
because we've been dumbed down or

1833
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,800
watered down by

1834
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:19,360
people above

1835
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:20,239
the

1836
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:28,000
what is it limestone that's a conductive

1837
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:29,920
um for energy

1838
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:30,640
and

1839
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:33,280
how is it even possible that cultures

1840
01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:35,920
around the world had pyramids and the

1841
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:36,719
same

1842
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:45,280
then yeah of course were aliens involved

1843
01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:46,400
were they giving these different

1844
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:49,360
civilizations information

1845
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:52,159
it's so it's so fun to believe and hope

1846
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:54,719
that's the case but at the same time

1847
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,520
it's like um you do an experiment with a

1848
01:13:01,830 --> 01:12:59,760
group of monkeys you teach one monkey

1849
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:01,840
how to open a can the other ones start

1850
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:04,400
to see it and then other tribes of

1851
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,560
monkeys they start to feel or they start

1852
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:09,280
to come around to understanding that

1853
01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:13,440
um that idea so that could also be how

1854
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:15,199
ancient civilizations were all kind of

1855
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:18,400
on the same grid of thought

1856
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,440
just somehow we're connected

1857
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:23,360
that's such an interesting concept yeah

1858
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:25,600
because not only pyramids but we know

1859
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:26,400
like

1860
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:29,760
different cultures uh came up with uh

1861
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,400
you know fermentation or you know as we

1862
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:34,719
come to know it beer nowadays like

1863
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:36,719
different civilizations that had no ways

1864
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:38,800
of communicating came up with like the

1865
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:41,520
same concept at the same time so maybe

1866
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:44,320
that was the moment in time where

1867
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:47,120
whatever created us was like all right

1868
01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:49,440
let's get this new thing out there

1869
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:52,159
that's gonna really like you know give

1870
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:54,159
them a hangover tomorrow morning or

1871
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,239
something i don't know but you do have

1872
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:58,480
to wonder that's such a good point um i

1873
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:00,880
think uh

1874
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:02,880
moving away from the idea of aliens

1875
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:06,080
intervening in our evolution or or

1876
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:07,679
whatnot um

1877
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:10,400
we have to keep in mind how

1878
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:11,840
smart how

1879
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,360
dedicated how uh tenacious human beings

1880
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:17,440
are especially when you look at the

1881
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:20,000
pyramids that were built literally on

1882
01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:23,120
the backs of slaves who if they didn't

1883
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:25,360
bring those stones there um they would

1884
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:28,880
be beaten they would be killed um so you

1885
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:29,840
know

1886
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:32,560
that's enough motivation to get that

1887
01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:35,760
pyramid done um so yeah i'd have to

1888
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:37,360
agree you look at the word

1889
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,560
extraterrestrial terrestrial terrain

1890
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:42,560
part of earth so

1891
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:44,080
we

1892
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:45,440
i want to say like

1893
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:47,679
maybe we are the extraterrestrials we

1894
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,920
have just lost the contact

1895
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:52,000
with ourselves because we're supposed to

1896
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:52,880
be

1897
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,800
in tuned with earth

1898
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:56,480
a hundred percent

1899
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,520
and

1900
01:15:01,669 --> 01:15:00,000
i we've just been we're consuming so

1901
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:01,679
many chemicals every day that we are

1902
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:03,760
losing our sight and everything even

1903
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:06,480
social media with people wanting to be

1904
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:08,719
influencers and tick talkers and all of

1905
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,560
this look at the indigenous tribes their

1906
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:12,640
whole idea of the photograph is it

1907
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,640
steals your soul

1908
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:16,960
and indigenous tribes of all sorts

1909
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:19,199
around the world were connected to earth

1910
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:21,040
the answers are always have been in

1911
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:22,400
nature

1912
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,159
way the universe works and you have to

1913
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,480
get onto the program but then you've got

1914
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:30,640
human greed and ego that comes in and

1915
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:33,120
just like destroys it all

1916
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:35,600
and then we become so selfish and

1917
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:36,880
ignorant

1918
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,760
um

1919
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:39,360
and i just feel like we are our own

1920
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,120
downfall and it wouldn't surprise me if

1921
01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:43,280
our civilization dies out soon because

1922
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:45,199
of that earth is going to win

1923
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:46,719
oh wait will win

1924
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:50,400
yeah i i often look to that that line

1925
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:52,159
i'm bringing it back to the x-files um

1926
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:54,239
because i just watched this episode

1927
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:57,199
quagmire the lake monster one where

1928
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:01,040
scully said um her father once told her

1929
01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:03,040
respect mother nature because mother

1930
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:05,520
nature has no respect for you

1931
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:08,159
and i was like whoa that's pretty heavy

1932
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:10,400
and i think you're right you know we've

1933
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:12,640
lost sight of

1934
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:14,880
our connectedness to

1935
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:17,280
our own home like

1936
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:20,640
what allows us to live here and what

1937
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:22,960
feeds us what gives us our air what

1938
01:16:28,229 --> 01:16:25,520
gives us our water these simple things

1939
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:28,239
that we literally need to survive and i

1940
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,000
often wonder like

1941
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:32,400
could these phenomena be

1942
01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:34,960
the earth screaming at us like ringing

1943
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:37,199
our necks and being like pay attention

1944
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:40,480
to me yeah like i'm here i've always

1945
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,520
been here like stop looking up there

1946
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:45,679
stop thinking we're you know

1947
01:16:49,189 --> 01:16:48,400
uh little green men from zeta reticuli

1948
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:49,199
like

1949
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:52,159
we've been here forever we're still here

1950
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:53,600
and we're probably gonna be here long

1951
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:55,679
after you i don't know it's you're noisy

1952
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:58,080
the frequency is too noisy and she can't

1953
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:01,120
think i i i believe that i mean look at

1954
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:04,640
um uh during quarantine

1955
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:08,000
how two weeks of no human movement and

1956
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:09,840
the air was clean you could see was it

1957
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:11,440
the himalayas

1958
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:12,239
yeah

1959
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:14,560
they come on like

1960
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:17,440
ah so frustrating it makes me it really

1961
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:20,000
boils my blood because we are

1962
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,199
potentially

1963
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:23,040
greater than good

1964
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,600
but we just decide to not do it

1965
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:29,679
right and especially with the pandemic

1966
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:31,280
you know again

1967
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:33,600
however this pandemic started people

1968
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:34,880
will debate

1969
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:37,840
forever and politicize and this and that

1970
01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:41,040
but again i feel like it's an example of

1971
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:42,239
this was

1972
01:17:47,189 --> 01:17:44,800
the world however you decide to

1973
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:47,199
you know see that as an anthropomorphic

1974
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:48,320
thing or

1975
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,600
a greater thing but um the world is

1976
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:53,600
putting you back in your shoes and

1977
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:55,280
making everything immediate and showing

1978
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:56,560
us how

1979
01:17:59,669 --> 01:17:57,600
precious

1980
01:18:01,830 --> 01:17:59,679
life can be when

1981
01:18:04,149 --> 01:18:01,840
something can ravage the world and kill

1982
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:04,159
hundreds of thousands of people uh

1983
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:06,719
remember this and change change the way

1984
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:09,280
you're doing things and look hopefully

1985
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:11,360
we're on the other side of this pandemic

1986
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:14,640
time will tell i hope we are but um i do

1987
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:16,320
truly wonder

1988
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:18,239
have we learned anything from this will

1989
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:20,800
we learn anything this from i don't i

1990
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,199
don't think change i don't and i hate to

1991
01:18:27,669 --> 01:18:25,520
be such a cynic about it but i'm all i

1992
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:27,679
you know i cross paths with

1993
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:31,040
maybe 150 200 people every day in my job

1994
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:34,080
and it's just the

1995
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:35,840
the sense of entitlement

1996
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:38,239
is greater now than it ever was before

1997
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,000
and it's like people have forgotten how

1998
01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:42,239
to be kind i look

1999
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:44,320
i'm being so cynical i want to take some

2000
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:46,400
of that back there are good people and

2001
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:49,440
the good people do make it worth it um

2002
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:51,760
just those bad seeds suck

2003
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:52,560
yeah

2004
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:54,800
uh i i just

2005
01:18:58,790 --> 01:18:57,120
perspective everybody needs a little bit

2006
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:58,800
of perspective

2007
01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:01,520
and some empathy because that will go a

2008
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:03,679
long way at the end of the day

2009
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:05,679
absolutely and you're right you know

2010
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:08,000
there are a lot of ugly in the world as

2011
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:10,960
this pandemic continues but um a lot of

2012
01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:12,800
beautiful things happening too which i

2013
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:15,920
try to always stress to people um

2014
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:18,480
especially dave tim

2015
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:22,400
jacob matthew all everyone joining us

2016
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:24,080
ethereal aura

2017
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:25,840
thank you so much for being here guys

2018
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:27,920
yeah i love that name um

2019
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:31,280
i i do truly think there's good in the

2020
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,320
world but i also wonder and i love your

2021
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,640
thoughts on this like

2022
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:38,880
the most ufo information we've ever

2023
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:40,719
gotten from the government is happening

2024
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:42,800
right now in the middle of a freaking

2025
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:45,280
pandemic where a lot of people aren't

2026
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:47,760
paying attention or even know that the

2027
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:50,800
pentagon came out with a ufo report or

2028
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:53,520
that um there's a secret program or a

2029
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:56,400
one-seeker program now not so secret

2030
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,719
that investigated it and this is a big

2031
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:00,800
step it's something a lot of us in the

2032
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:03,040
ufo fields have hoped and wanted for so

2033
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:06,560
long and it's also more widely accepted

2034
01:20:09,990 --> 01:20:08,400
now but of course it's happening in the

2035
01:20:12,149 --> 01:20:10,000
middle of a pandemic where we have much

2036
01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:12,159
more important things to worry about but

2037
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:14,800
yeah again i do wonder is that the way

2038
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:17,520
it was supposed to play out or was the

2039
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:20,000
government like we should probably

2040
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:22,320
you know mess around with this ufo thing

2041
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:23,920
so that people forget about everything

2042
01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:26,000
else going on right i don't know it's

2043
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:28,719
juicy isn't it it makes you wonder and

2044
01:20:33,189 --> 01:20:30,719
it's like oh i mean cool at least the

2045
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:33,199
conversation has started it really is

2046
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,040
and it's making people more interested

2047
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:37,199
in this topic and it's becoming more

2048
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,280
mainstream so let's say something does

2049
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:40,880
happen

2050
01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:42,400
we can kind of chill out about it a

2051
01:20:46,149 --> 01:20:43,520
little

2052
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:46,159
yeah but i but what worries me is that

2053
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:48,560
we had the war of the worlds thing that

2054
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:50,400
happened remember when the radio show

2055
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:51,760
and people

2056
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:53,440
went bananas

2057
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:55,840
and i feel like with this pandemic

2058
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:57,840
everybody went bananas over toilet

2059
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:00,400
tissue

2060
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,280
yeah so like if an aircraft were to come

2061
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:05,440
over and be like hey i'm here is

2062
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:07,040
everybody going to be cool about it or

2063
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:08,719
are we just going to lose their mind

2064
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:09,679
yeah

2065
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:14,159
oh humans i'm ready though let's go

2066
01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:15,520
let's do this

2067
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:18,400
i'm ready to jump ship

2068
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:21,520
well what do you hope for karina when it

2069
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,960
comes to this whole

2070
01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:24,719
ufo thing what do you personally want

2071
01:21:28,790 --> 01:21:27,120
out of it do you want this to be aliens

2072
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:28,800
do you want this to be

2073
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:31,840
us from the future um i don't know what

2074
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:34,000
do you want out of this whole ufo

2075
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:36,159
mystery i guess such a good question

2076
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:38,400
what do i want oh that's a really good

2077
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:41,280
one um i know it's and it's a big

2078
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:43,440
question like i'm still searching for

2079
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:46,080
what i want out of all this i you know

2080
01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:47,840
i mean we all want validation at the end

2081
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:49,600
of the day i just

2082
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,800
i want to believe in something

2083
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:52,320
fantastical

2084
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:54,480
i want to believe that there is

2085
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:56,560
something that is looking out for us and

2086
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,040
wanting to protect us

2087
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,520
try to destroy nuclear weapons because

2088
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:03,120
what's the point of them

2089
01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:06,239
um i want to believe that there are

2090
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,639
different races that have different

2091
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,400
motives and intentions

2092
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:12,480
out there

2093
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:14,080
i think

2094
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:16,560
the through line through all of it just

2095
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,239
to tie in a little bit of

2096
01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:20,639
script talk like the through line

2097
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:23,040
is just love

2098
01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:25,360
we all want love we all want to be

2099
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:28,159
accepted in one way or another and

2100
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:30,080
being connected with ourselves and our

2101
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:34,800
earth is i think what the lesson is

2102
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:37,199
and to have some perspective and not

2103
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:39,920
judge each other so quickly

2104
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:42,480
and i i want to believe that that's the

2105
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:44,480
lesson

2106
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,360
out there that they want to give us

2107
01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:48,639
then at some time they're probably doing

2108
01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:52,000
human experiments i don't know

2109
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:52,880
yeah

2110
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:54,639
oh he's got to throw that in like you

2111
01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:57,040
know the probing i don't know

2112
01:23:01,750 --> 01:22:59,840
that's part of the love

2113
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:01,760
for some i don't know that's a

2114
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:04,000
conversation for another time

2115
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:06,560
and who's to say it's one

2116
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,239
you know intelligence or phenomenon who

2117
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:12,639
really knows but i mean we we want

2118
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:15,199
answers but at the same time

2119
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:17,040
maybe we're just not meant to have the

2120
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,800
answer

2121
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:20,800
yeah that's such a good point i always

2122
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:22,880
tell people um

2123
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,800
some of these people who've studied ufos

2124
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:26,400
their whole life they went to the grave

2125
01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:28,800
not knowing the answers and maybe

2126
01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:30,320
they're getting them now and whatever

2127
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,600
comes next that's you know what i hope

2128
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:35,280
happens but

2129
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,760
who knows but um i

2130
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:39,360
personally don't think i'm gonna get

2131
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:41,440
those answers and i'm okay with that i

2132
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:44,480
accepted that a long time ago and um i

2133
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,520
just love

2134
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:46,880
asking the questions like the

2135
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:49,520
conversations we've had tonight again

2136
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:52,159
this always it comes back to us and it

2137
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:54,639
says far more about us as humans

2138
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:57,360
um than it does whatever we're dealing

2139
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:00,159
with and that's what's really

2140
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:02,719
um kept me going it's not what is the

2141
01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:05,679
answer to ufos um is the government

2142
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:08,159
hiding information at the end of the day

2143
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:11,440
the truth will out some way some form

2144
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,920
but um in the meantime yeah i'm just

2145
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:15,520
gonna keep having conversations like

2146
01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:17,120
this where we can

2147
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:19,040
just talk freely about it and no one's

2148
01:24:24,790 --> 01:24:22,000
gonna laugh at us or or judge us they

2149
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:24,800
they might be i i think guitar me and

2150
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,880
and and kenny might be laughing at us a

2151
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:28,320
little but um

2152
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:29,040
but

2153
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:32,400
again i love that idea of love like i

2154
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:34,080
really do think that's what this kind of

2155
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:37,600
boils down to like love conquers all it

2156
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:41,600
always has it always will um but

2157
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:43,360
i guess to kind of

2158
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:45,360
to wrap things up karina and we've gone

2159
01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:47,280
a little over what i told you we were

2160
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:49,120
gonna i don't want to keep you too long

2161
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:51,120
um

2162
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:54,480
what uh tell us a little about your your

2163
01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:58,000
instagram space cadet and um your

2164
01:25:01,750 --> 01:24:59,040
awesome

2165
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:01,760
animations that you do thank you well

2166
01:25:06,310 --> 01:25:03,520
that was so cool yeah tell us about what

2167
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,320
you got going over there i created b the

2168
01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:08,800
alien her name is b

2169
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:10,800
uh the story is she sent down from the

2170
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:13,120
galactic federation because they are

2171
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:15,520
like humans why are they worth saving so

2172
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:17,040
she's sent down to try to figure it out

2173
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:18,960
and what makes her different is that she

2174
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:20,880
has so much compassion

2175
01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:23,040
and curiosity

2176
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:25,679
she has a lot of empathy and she just

2177
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:29,199
wants to understand what makes us us

2178
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:33,360
um so that spawned into space cadet gal

2179
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,679
where i like to

2180
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:37,199
i want to

2181
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:40,560
teach about the history of humans the

2182
01:25:44,790 --> 01:25:42,480
inventors the inventions ancient

2183
01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:44,800
civilizations the facts that are there

2184
01:25:49,110 --> 01:25:47,120
so i i always like to know what happened

2185
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:49,120
in the past so we can form our future

2186
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:50,000
better

2187
01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:52,000
um just education because it's so

2188
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:53,920
interesting you don't know who was

2189
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:57,840
behind that curtain a lot so um along

2190
01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:00,080
with that mindfulness how we can be

2191
01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:01,760
better for ourselves and those around us

2192
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:04,800
like just picking up some trash or not

2193
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:07,679
engaging with somebody that i don't it

2194
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:09,280
encompasses a lot of things which also

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can go into frequency and energy sound

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bass and music i am not a guru of any

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01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:16,719
sort i am not an expert i'm just super

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passionate i like to share that

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information and i like to guide people

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to those that are the experts

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so kind of like the center of curiosity

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um because i i think

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uh since we're so made up of so much

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water

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we

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are affected by the music and the sounds

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around us so it's really important to

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01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:42,159
feed your soul with smart sounds um but

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then also the aliens and cryptology

2210
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which of course obviously we have to

2211
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talk about that

2212
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:50,159
it's so much fun the different races the

2213
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abductions so i'll lean into that and

2214
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:55,120
then science the physics astronomy let's

2215
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:57,440
talk about the astronauts the um

2216
01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:58,960
scientists that have changed our lives

2217
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like tesla um so

2218
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it's a lot of ground it's a lot of

2219
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:05,280
content i have yet to dive into some of

2220
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it and

2221
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:09,040
as an opener i did the stop-motion

2222
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:11,520
animation just to kind of get the story

2223
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:14,239
out there and be like this is what i do

2224
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,080
this is what it's about

2225
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:18,480
take it or leave it i love it

2226
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:20,960
i i absolutely love it well karina where

2227
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:24,159
can we find everything you're up to and

2228
01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:26,719
uh you got anything coming up acting

2229
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:29,280
wise that you can share with us um i

2230
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,159
just i do a lot of voiceovers so i i'm

2231
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,400
all over the place with that um space

2232
01:27:38,950 --> 01:27:37,120
cadet gal on instagram i've gotta work

2233
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:38,960
on putting content and then my own

2234
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:42,080
personal page karina isabel which um

2235
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:44,400
i'm always posting stuff about this

2236
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:46,400
topic all the time

2237
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:48,800
um that's basically where i'm at i don't

2238
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:51,679
really do facebook too much um

2239
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:53,760
probably probably a good thing yeah

2240
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twitter i can't it's just so much

2241
01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:58,960
it's a lot no i love what she got going

2242
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:01,679
on over on instagram and i know

2243
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:04,080
your work and your journey has only just

2244
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:06,880
begun and so is this conversation so i

2245
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:09,920
would love to have you back again but i

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01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:12,159
will say good night thank you for

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01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:14,000
tonight for everyone who joined us in

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01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:15,920
the live chat thank you for coming guys

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01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,400
thank you for all of your comments for

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for karina and i and um once again

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01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:22,719
karina i have to thank you for coming on